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		<title>By: Capitalizing on Social to Prop Up Intranets - Social Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capitalizing on Social to Prop Up Intranets - Social Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] only for lack of inspiration. In a brilliant December 2009 assessment of the failure of intranets to achieve their intended purpose, CMS consultant Janus Boye pointed to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] only for lack of inspiration. In a brilliant December 2009 assessment of the failure of intranets to achieve their intended purpose, CMS consultant Janus Boye pointed to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: J. Boye &#124; The intranet is not dead</title>
		<link>http://jboye.com/blogpost/great-intranets-still-have-a-long-way-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-3425</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Boye &#124; The intranet is not dead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gather input for my slides, I asked our members and also posted a blog called Great intranets still have a long way to go in advance of my presentation. The discussion has since continued on this blog, with a particularly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] gather input for my slides, I asked our members and also posted a blog called Great intranets still have a long way to go in advance of my presentation. The discussion has since continued on this blog, with a particularly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Damian Webber</title>
		<link>http://jboye.com/blogpost/great-intranets-still-have-a-long-way-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-3420</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian Webber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your organisation does not have a collaborative culture then trying to build collaborative tools within a corporate intranet is not much use unless you address the culture within the organisation.

Intranets need to be different not because organisations are different but because organisational culture differs from one company to the next (and even between different organisational units in the case of larger companies).

Organisations can only learn from another organisation&#039;s intranet if they first learn how that intranet relates to the &#039;personality&#039; of the organisation. This is why cut and paste functionality from one intranet manager to another most ends in #FAIL.

Organisational culture is mostly overlooked in such conversations but it&#039;s pretty much the guiding factor in determining how a company should make the most of an investement in such technologies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your organisation does not have a collaborative culture then trying to build collaborative tools within a corporate intranet is not much use unless you address the culture within the organisation.</p>
<p>Intranets need to be different not because organisations are different but because organisational culture differs from one company to the next (and even between different organisational units in the case of larger companies).</p>
<p>Organisations can only learn from another organisation&#8217;s intranet if they first learn how that intranet relates to the &#8216;personality&#8217; of the organisation. This is why cut and paste functionality from one intranet manager to another most ends in #FAIL.</p>
<p>Organisational culture is mostly overlooked in such conversations but it&#8217;s pretty much the guiding factor in determining how a company should make the most of an investement in such technologies</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick C. Walsh</title>
		<link>http://jboye.com/blogpost/great-intranets-still-have-a-long-way-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-3377</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick C. Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like to comment on the first &#039;challenge&#039; lack of support from senior managers. 

I think that there is a very good reason why many intranets don&#039;t get supported, it&#039;s because generally they don&#039;t offer value for money. If I was a senior manager I would have to think very hard whether the finite amount of money I had would be best spent by being sunk into the bottomless well of an intranet or on something that might provide a more certain return. 

It is time for intranet workers to stop whingeing about how they never get the resource they need and recognize the fact that it is up to them to prove the value of their intranet to senior management by improving what they offer.

How can they do this? That&#039;s the $60,000 question. However whatever approach we take it must be different to what we&#039;ve tried before.

As they say &#039;If you keep doing the same things, don&#039;t be surprised when you keep getting the same results&#039;

Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just like to comment on the first &#8216;challenge&#8217; lack of support from senior managers. </p>
<p>I think that there is a very good reason why many intranets don&#8217;t get supported, it&#8217;s because generally they don&#8217;t offer value for money. If I was a senior manager I would have to think very hard whether the finite amount of money I had would be best spent by being sunk into the bottomless well of an intranet or on something that might provide a more certain return. </p>
<p>It is time for intranet workers to stop whingeing about how they never get the resource they need and recognize the fact that it is up to them to prove the value of their intranet to senior management by improving what they offer.</p>
<p>How can they do this? That&#8217;s the $60,000 question. However whatever approach we take it must be different to what we&#8217;ve tried before.</p>
<p>As they say &#8216;If you keep doing the same things, don&#8217;t be surprised when you keep getting the same results&#8217;</p>
<p>Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: Martin White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane is very good at reading between my lines. My comment to Janus was in the context of CoP discussions where there is a tendency for less-experienced intranet managers to assume that if they adopt the approaches taken by organisations who seem to have &quot;found the answer&quot; without taking the trouble to understand the similiarities and differences between not only their intranet and the exemplar, but also between the business requirements and organisational culture, then there will almost certainly be trouble ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane is very good at reading between my lines. My comment to Janus was in the context of CoP discussions where there is a tendency for less-experienced intranet managers to assume that if they adopt the approaches taken by organisations who seem to have &#8220;found the answer&#8221; without taking the trouble to understand the similiarities and differences between not only their intranet and the exemplar, but also between the business requirements and organisational culture, then there will almost certainly be trouble ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane McConnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane McConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janus and colleagues - very nice new design!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janus and colleagues &#8211; very nice new design!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane McConnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane McConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I could be in London this week!
I think what Martin means (and I agree) is that you cannot look at great intranets and assume you can &quot;cut and paste&quot; what they did into yours. Every intranet is unique. 
However I certainly agree with Andrew that much can be learned by exploring how other organizations have met intranet challenges that you are facing. I know for certain that most organizations face similar challenges. Understanding the obstacles, looking at what other people have done is immensely helpful. The key is to understand their parameters and yours, their intranet demographics and yours, and then see what ideas and tips might be relevant for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I could be in London this week!<br />
I think what Martin means (and I agree) is that you cannot look at great intranets and assume you can &#8220;cut and paste&#8221; what they did into yours. Every intranet is unique.<br />
However I certainly agree with Andrew that much can be learned by exploring how other organizations have met intranet challenges that you are facing. I know for certain that most organizations face similar challenges. Understanding the obstacles, looking at what other people have done is immensely helpful. The key is to understand their parameters and yours, their intranet demographics and yours, and then see what ideas and tips might be relevant for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, I have to say that I disagree that with the statement that &#039;little can be learned from leading intranets&#039;. While it is true that an intranet is unlikely to meet all user requirements and expectations, there are certainly some generic and desirable intranet qualities that some organisations have addressed much more effectively than others. And we should be able to learn from these. 

Take collaboration for example. I know of several organisations that have discussion forums that are actively being used by the end users, have collaborative work spaces that are also being used, have incorporated blogs and blog spaces into their intranet which are kept up-to-date and read by end users. I know that the end users consider these to be valuable and useful tools. 

If I am running an intranet that is not getting any traction in the collaboration space, I would be very interested in speaking to those organisations that have &#039;been there and done that&#039; and have succeeded in this area. I think this applies to any industry - not just intranets. Everyone wants to learn from the best.

In terms of addressing the challenges you mention, I think senior management support can be obtained by demonstrating real benefits that the intranet adds to the business. Particularly in the areas of process/task completion, employee engagement, change management, collaboration, knowledge management, continuous improvement, looking after the environment and improved access to applications &amp; data. Once you have this support, it make is easier to obtain the resources needed to address other challenges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I have to say that I disagree that with the statement that &#8216;little can be learned from leading intranets&#8217;. While it is true that an intranet is unlikely to meet all user requirements and expectations, there are certainly some generic and desirable intranet qualities that some organisations have addressed much more effectively than others. And we should be able to learn from these. </p>
<p>Take collaboration for example. I know of several organisations that have discussion forums that are actively being used by the end users, have collaborative work spaces that are also being used, have incorporated blogs and blog spaces into their intranet which are kept up-to-date and read by end users. I know that the end users consider these to be valuable and useful tools. </p>
<p>If I am running an intranet that is not getting any traction in the collaboration space, I would be very interested in speaking to those organisations that have &#8216;been there and done that&#8217; and have succeeded in this area. I think this applies to any industry &#8211; not just intranets. Everyone wants to learn from the best.</p>
<p>In terms of addressing the challenges you mention, I think senior management support can be obtained by demonstrating real benefits that the intranet adds to the business. Particularly in the areas of process/task completion, employee engagement, change management, collaboration, knowledge management, continuous improvement, looking after the environment and improved access to applications &amp; data. Once you have this support, it make is easier to obtain the resources needed to address other challenges.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Mooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are correct. One that I’d add, or possibly relate to “lack of support” is: 
* lack of compelling content or content not written for the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are correct. One that I’d add, or possibly relate to “lack of support” is:<br />
* lack of compelling content or content not written for the web.</p>
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