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	<title>Comments on: IBM #1 in web portal software?</title>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the amazing world of DIS-information where it is possible for anyone to claim pole position as long as they have deep pockets. Since Mar 2008, Microsoft have stopped sharing their numbers because they realized it better to do business quietly. Customers vote with their feet where as the #1 boys alsways attract anti-trust actions. 
So if IBM or Oracle wants their 15mins of glory, Steve Ballmer is laughing all the way to the bank (un-escorted)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the amazing world of DIS-information where it is possible for anyone to claim pole position as long as they have deep pockets. Since Mar 2008, Microsoft have stopped sharing their numbers because they realized it better to do business quietly. Customers vote with their feet where as the #1 boys alsways attract anti-trust actions.<br />
So if IBM or Oracle wants their 15mins of glory, Steve Ballmer is laughing all the way to the bank (un-escorted)</p>
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		<title>By: How IBM is #1 in web portal software? &#171; contentprise</title>
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		<dc:creator>How IBM is #1 in web portal software? &#171; contentprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1. Technology: Still the market share of .net is much less than java. IBM being a java based portal and is adopted by organizations who either already have java based software infrastructure or their decisive people are pro-java. I agree with Janus [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1. Technology: Still the market share of .net is much less than java. IBM being a java based portal and is adopted by organizations who either already have java based software infrastructure or their decisive people are pro-java. I agree with Janus [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was at the Gartner PCC conference in LA last September, Gartner was predicting that the enterprise portal market would approach $1.5B in 2009 and that IBM would continue to take the largest share of the market with over $400M. The  size of the economic downturn had not yet fully revealed itself (perhaps it still hasn&#039;t), so that market size projection was probably overly optimistic. If memory serves I believe the 2007 market was around $1.1B. The 2008 numbers were not yet available. It&#039;s interesting that Gartner sometimes reports portals within the portal, content, and collab (PCC) space, and other times within the lower-level application infrastructure and middleware (AIM) space. I would argue that enterprise portals have moved up the value chain enough to merit inclusion in the former category. 

Janus, while you are certainly correct that looking at revenues gives a different picture than looking at adoption, I still believe that revenues are the most important metric. Why? One reason is that the time-tested competitive strategy of undercutting a market leader with discounted or free alternatives is ultimately a sales strategy. The hope of course is that the money left on the table in the short term will be made up in the long term via market share gains. The revenue numbers, however imprecise, are still the best indicator of when or if that strategy will pay off. I believe this is true for for-profit open source companies as well; altruistic motivations aside, they are still in business to make money. Support and maintenance revenue is included in Gartner&#039;s market sizing. When an open source company chooses to charge only for support and maintenance and not for licenses, that too is a sales strategy whose success or failure will ultimately be reflected in the revenue numbers. 

Certainly adoption is also a very important metric. But for my &quot;money&quot; :) the value the market places on these products provides the clearest picture of what&#039;s currently happening. The adoption trends you describe are likely predictive of future changes to the revenue picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was at the Gartner PCC conference in LA last September, Gartner was predicting that the enterprise portal market would approach $1.5B in 2009 and that IBM would continue to take the largest share of the market with over $400M. The  size of the economic downturn had not yet fully revealed itself (perhaps it still hasn&#8217;t), so that market size projection was probably overly optimistic. If memory serves I believe the 2007 market was around $1.1B. The 2008 numbers were not yet available. It&#8217;s interesting that Gartner sometimes reports portals within the portal, content, and collab (PCC) space, and other times within the lower-level application infrastructure and middleware (AIM) space. I would argue that enterprise portals have moved up the value chain enough to merit inclusion in the former category. </p>
<p>Janus, while you are certainly correct that looking at revenues gives a different picture than looking at adoption, I still believe that revenues are the most important metric. Why? One reason is that the time-tested competitive strategy of undercutting a market leader with discounted or free alternatives is ultimately a sales strategy. The hope of course is that the money left on the table in the short term will be made up in the long term via market share gains. The revenue numbers, however imprecise, are still the best indicator of when or if that strategy will pay off. I believe this is true for for-profit open source companies as well; altruistic motivations aside, they are still in business to make money. Support and maintenance revenue is included in Gartner&#8217;s market sizing. When an open source company chooses to charge only for support and maintenance and not for licenses, that too is a sales strategy whose success or failure will ultimately be reflected in the revenue numbers. </p>
<p>Certainly adoption is also a very important metric. But for my &#8220;money&#8221; <img src='http://jboye.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  the value the market places on these products provides the clearest picture of what&#8217;s currently happening. The adoption trends you describe are likely predictive of future changes to the revenue picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Sten Vesterli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sten Vesterli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 09:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only publicly available numbers seem to be the ones from Gartner&#039;s own press release (http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=689410). These aggregate the entire application infrastructure and middleware (AIM) space, so I can&#039;t see how IBM can use these totals to claim leadership in one specific area of AIM (Portals).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only publicly available numbers seem to be the ones from Gartner&#8217;s own press release (<a href="http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=689410" rel="nofollow">http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=689410</a>). These aggregate the entire application infrastructure and middleware (AIM) space, so I can&#8217;t see how IBM can use these totals to claim leadership in one specific area of AIM (Portals).</p>
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