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		<title>By: &#187; Aarhus University selects Typo3 - J. Boye &#187; Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Aarhus University selects Typo3 - J. Boye &#187; Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] previously compared Typo3 to a solid German car, which resulted in many constructive comments; partly because it publicly asked about the future of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: M Dillenbeck</title>
		<link>http://jboye.com/blogpost/typo3-a-solid-german-car/comment-page-1/#comment-2148</link>
		<dc:creator>M Dillenbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a person looking into TYPO3 with little knowledge about it, the post and responses hold two disappointments:

1) That those who responded to the post&#039;s inaccuracies sent the details to the mailing list - something I am not a current subscriber to.  I have no way to verify that the original post is erroneous because you deem it better to keep your comments in &quot;private&quot;.

2) That the author&#039;s response made no mention of detailed inaccuracies but to personal attacks via email.

Who am I to believe?  Did the replies help me make any conclusions about TYPO3?  No.  Either the responders are trying to deceive me and there is no further details to offer because there are no additional inaccuracies, or the original author is trying to deceive me by not mentioning inaccuracies and correcting them.

Overall, disappointing.  I can only say there is a lot a buzz about Joomla and Drupal, but the TYPO3 info seems more phantasmal to find on the internet (beyond TYPO3&#039;s web site/mailing lists).  However, I will keep searching for current information rather than outdated information from 2006 from 3rd parties...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a person looking into TYPO3 with little knowledge about it, the post and responses hold two disappointments:</p>
<p>1) That those who responded to the post&#8217;s inaccuracies sent the details to the mailing list &#8211; something I am not a current subscriber to.  I have no way to verify that the original post is erroneous because you deem it better to keep your comments in &#8220;private&#8221;.</p>
<p>2) That the author&#8217;s response made no mention of detailed inaccuracies but to personal attacks via email.</p>
<p>Who am I to believe?  Did the replies help me make any conclusions about TYPO3?  No.  Either the responders are trying to deceive me and there is no further details to offer because there are no additional inaccuracies, or the original author is trying to deceive me by not mentioning inaccuracies and correcting them.</p>
<p>Overall, disappointing.  I can only say there is a lot a buzz about Joomla and Drupal, but the TYPO3 info seems more phantasmal to find on the internet (beyond TYPO3&#8242;s web site/mailing lists).  However, I will keep searching for current information rather than outdated information from 2006 from 3rd parties&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Cifuentes</title>
		<link>http://jboye.com/blogpost/typo3-a-solid-german-car/comment-page-1/#comment-1880</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco Cifuentes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this post has been created only for argue, and is a view point very away of the reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this post has been created only for argue, and is a view point very away of the reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cannon</title>
		<link>http://jboye.com/blogpost/typo3-a-solid-german-car/comment-page-1/#comment-1792</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been involved quite a bit with TYPO3 since May 2003 and still firmly believe TYPO3 is the strongest open source PHP &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.acqal.com/typo3-cms-typo3-website-migration/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;web content management&lt;/a&gt; system there is.

It&#039;s very true that while active, get into your face direct marketing of TYPO3 doesn&#039;t happen much, there is fund raising going on now to hire a full-time marketer or firm to implement a marketing plan written by the top guy in open source marketing.

To truly see the pulse of TYPO3 of which there&#039;s easily a 100 tweets and several blogs written a day, visit support.typo3.org.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been involved quite a bit with TYPO3 since May 2003 and still firmly believe TYPO3 is the strongest open source PHP <a href="http://www.acqal.com/typo3-cms-typo3-website-migration/" rel="nofollow">web content management</a> system there is.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very true that while active, get into your face direct marketing of TYPO3 doesn&#8217;t happen much, there is fund raising going on now to hire a full-time marketer or firm to implement a marketing plan written by the top guy in open source marketing.</p>
<p>To truly see the pulse of TYPO3 of which there&#8217;s easily a 100 tweets and several blogs written a day, visit support.typo3.org.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
		<link>http://jboye.com/blogpost/typo3-a-solid-german-car/comment-page-1/#comment-1669</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recent research made clear that TYPO3 is most feared Open Source CMS bij competitors in the Netherlands. So we&#039;re on the right track. Better more time in development, then in marketing. Let the agencies (like us) do the marketing.... 

Ciao,
Jasper
http://www.redkiwi.nl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recent research made clear that TYPO3 is most feared Open Source CMS bij competitors in the Netherlands. So we&#8217;re on the right track. Better more time in development, then in marketing. Let the agencies (like us) do the marketing&#8230;. </p>
<p>Ciao,<br />
Jasper<br />
<a href="http://www.redkiwi.nl" rel="nofollow">http://www.redkiwi.nl</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jan Kaya-Mortensen (CEO)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Kaya-Mortensen (CEO)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all – Thank you Janus for the Blogg - nice to have some debate!

TYPO3 needs Marketing – clearly Janus Boyes Blogg reveals this soft spot!

This Blog and the responses make no doubt – TYPO3 needs to communicate.

TYPO3 is filled with life – we know that – but they don’t know that.

That is a problem – we need to solve it – Marketing is one solution.


TYPO3 has uniqueness and FORM:

Flexibility
Primary Focus is on the engine, extension building and so forth, thus providing a top-flexible Enterprise CMS that ensures the demands of today and the future.  
Remember TYPO3 is customized to customer’s needs – not the other way.

Opportunity
The world has opened their eyes, creating a Global environment of possibilities. Technical inputs and implementations will increase, and along with this agencies, in turn providing more suppliers, security and flexibility for the customer.

Reliability
Inspiring people to share has provided a Community with more than 20.000 registered developers who with their heart and soul provide contributions. http://typo3.dk/index.php?id=9

This impressive and growing list of developers combined with the TYPO3.ORG structure grants a high reliability for maintenance and innovation regardless of the version. 

Maturity
Lessons have been learned since the release in 1998, and this knowledge is passed on to secure a strong future foundation.

We have proven survival of the fittest and the development of version 5 provides even more proof of a Community filled with energy and knowledge to stay alive.

Imagine what the future looks like when you combine the High Class German structural craftsmanship with the Creativity and mindset of other cultures.

Kasper Skårhøj started it all and his technical vision and firm belief in People reaching out for each-other and sharing has proven correct. 

Kaspers visionary abilities are once again correct – the wisdom has been passed on to the next generation - it is time to let go and observe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all – Thank you Janus for the Blogg &#8211; nice to have some debate!</p>
<p>TYPO3 needs Marketing – clearly Janus Boyes Blogg reveals this soft spot!</p>
<p>This Blog and the responses make no doubt – TYPO3 needs to communicate.</p>
<p>TYPO3 is filled with life – we know that – but they don’t know that.</p>
<p>That is a problem – we need to solve it – Marketing is one solution.</p>
<p>TYPO3 has uniqueness and FORM:</p>
<p>Flexibility<br />
Primary Focus is on the engine, extension building and so forth, thus providing a top-flexible Enterprise CMS that ensures the demands of today and the future.<br />
Remember TYPO3 is customized to customer’s needs – not the other way.</p>
<p>Opportunity<br />
The world has opened their eyes, creating a Global environment of possibilities. Technical inputs and implementations will increase, and along with this agencies, in turn providing more suppliers, security and flexibility for the customer.</p>
<p>Reliability<br />
Inspiring people to share has provided a Community with more than 20.000 registered developers who with their heart and soul provide contributions. <a href="http://typo3.dk/index.php?id=9" rel="nofollow">http://typo3.dk/index.php?id=9</a></p>
<p>This impressive and growing list of developers combined with the TYPO3.ORG structure grants a high reliability for maintenance and innovation regardless of the version. </p>
<p>Maturity<br />
Lessons have been learned since the release in 1998, and this knowledge is passed on to secure a strong future foundation.</p>
<p>We have proven survival of the fittest and the development of version 5 provides even more proof of a Community filled with energy and knowledge to stay alive.</p>
<p>Imagine what the future looks like when you combine the High Class German structural craftsmanship with the Creativity and mindset of other cultures.</p>
<p>Kasper Skårhøj started it all and his technical vision and firm belief in People reaching out for each-other and sharing has proven correct. </p>
<p>Kaspers visionary abilities are once again correct – the wisdom has been passed on to the next generation &#8211; it is time to let go and observe.</p>
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		<title>By: Janus Boye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janus Boye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for the many comments and constructive feedback. 

Here&#039;s what I&#039;ve learned so far:
* A relaunch of typo3.org is on its way
* General consensus is that the Typo3 Association has not been very good at marketing
* Typo3 has been improved since the release of version 4
* If you write something that might be interpreted as criticism of Typo3, be prepared for a few personal attacks in your inbox
* If you spell Typo3 like I do and not in all caps, you&#039;ll make some more people unhappy

I&#039;m not going to advice the Typo3 community what to do, but wish everybody good luck with their projects!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for the many comments and constructive feedback. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve learned so far:<br />
* A relaunch of typo3.org is on its way<br />
* General consensus is that the Typo3 Association has not been very good at marketing<br />
* Typo3 has been improved since the release of version 4<br />
* If you write something that might be interpreted as criticism of Typo3, be prepared for a few personal attacks in your inbox<br />
* If you spell Typo3 like I do and not in all caps, you&#8217;ll make some more people unhappy</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to advice the Typo3 community what to do, but wish everybody good luck with their projects!</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Olthoff</title>
		<link>http://jboye.com/blogpost/typo3-a-solid-german-car/comment-page-1/#comment-1646</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Olthoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general TYPO3 is one of the top level cms, but however we can improve on marketing and fundraising. If I compare it to the networking market a few years ago Novell had a market penetration around 70% and then Microsoft came along with the Windows server, while Novell still being the better product. The rest is history.

An answer to that is the partner network of TYPOTYCOON where we join forces and work together on marketing, fundraising and share knowledge. 

Hans Olthoff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general TYPO3 is one of the top level cms, but however we can improve on marketing and fundraising. If I compare it to the networking market a few years ago Novell had a market penetration around 70% and then Microsoft came along with the Windows server, while Novell still being the better product. The rest is history.</p>
<p>An answer to that is the partner network of TYPOTYCOON where we join forces and work together on marketing, fundraising and share knowledge. </p>
<p>Hans Olthoff</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Brennan, Jr.</title>
		<link>http://jboye.com/blogpost/typo3-a-solid-german-car/comment-page-1/#comment-1641</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Brennan, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a non-technical and a non-programmer, I have tried to be very careful in my assessment of TYPO3.  I tested it, and worked on and off with it for many years.  I find it amusing how you have brought up these ideas, but that is also a good thing as it has brought out replies that help nontechies like me to get deeper into the subject.
One of the attractions for me is the very fact that Germans are the main developers.  Even here in Brazil Germans are known for their high standards and incontestible quality.  Just that fact right there attracted me to TYPO3 (nothing against other nationalities ;) ).  BTW, I am not German.
TYPO3&#039;s core developers are mostly european which to me, twice American (US and Brazil) promises a lot for the future.
Last but not least is that although it may not appear to fit the bill for some market concepts (again I am a layman) the whole concept of keeping the TYPO3 ready for the future would require much more time, effort, and planning on the core team&#039;s part than most other quick and dirty projects would.  I also see that TYPO3 attracts large businesses and some very serious enterprises.  Gigantic corporations work on a very different vision than a regular end-user or small company would.  For some users a simple Joomla instalation would work, but TYPO3 has been developed for some VERY different ideas than most CMSs out there are.  I see in TYPO3 a very strong an long-lasting future and that is why I have taken a recent stand to use it as my CMS.
I think all of the other comments may help in assessing the situation a little better.  Watch the podcasts, there are currently 125 of them.  
The very first one gives a good overview of how TYPO3 evolved over the years.  It is the spirito of community, friendship and fellowship that is the main structure of TYPO3.
 
See you around cyberspace,

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a non-technical and a non-programmer, I have tried to be very careful in my assessment of TYPO3.  I tested it, and worked on and off with it for many years.  I find it amusing how you have brought up these ideas, but that is also a good thing as it has brought out replies that help nontechies like me to get deeper into the subject.<br />
One of the attractions for me is the very fact that Germans are the main developers.  Even here in Brazil Germans are known for their high standards and incontestible quality.  Just that fact right there attracted me to TYPO3 (nothing against other nationalities <img src='http://jboye.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).  BTW, I am not German.<br />
TYPO3&#8242;s core developers are mostly european which to me, twice American (US and Brazil) promises a lot for the future.<br />
Last but not least is that although it may not appear to fit the bill for some market concepts (again I am a layman) the whole concept of keeping the TYPO3 ready for the future would require much more time, effort, and planning on the core team&#8217;s part than most other quick and dirty projects would.  I also see that TYPO3 attracts large businesses and some very serious enterprises.  Gigantic corporations work on a very different vision than a regular end-user or small company would.  For some users a simple Joomla instalation would work, but TYPO3 has been developed for some VERY different ideas than most CMSs out there are.  I see in TYPO3 a very strong an long-lasting future and that is why I have taken a recent stand to use it as my CMS.<br />
I think all of the other comments may help in assessing the situation a little better.  Watch the podcasts, there are currently 125 of them.<br />
The very first one gives a good overview of how TYPO3 evolved over the years.  It is the spirito of community, friendship and fellowship that is the main structure of TYPO3.</p>
<p>See you around cyberspace,</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Kian Gould</title>
		<link>http://jboye.com/blogpost/typo3-a-solid-german-car/comment-page-1/#comment-1637</link>
		<dc:creator>Kian Gould</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just my 5 Cents:

There is currently a new TYPO3.org relaunch in the makings. The old site has not been updated, because everyone in the community has been so busy doing other things. The project is still one of the most active OS communities in the world and in central Europe TYPO3 has no close to no competition in the OS sector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just my 5 Cents:</p>
<p>There is currently a new TYPO3.org relaunch in the makings. The old site has not been updated, because everyone in the community has been so busy doing other things. The project is still one of the most active OS communities in the world and in central Europe TYPO3 has no close to no competition in the OS sector.</p>
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